I've been using the latest version for some time (0.55.2.0) and don't know if or how much better it is from CM54.zip. My suggestion is to use the older version while waiting for the pass from John Rawson for the new one (not sure if he charges for it now). Once you have both, then you can report to us re the difference . Karnac's Lotto-logix link will point to the mail (contact author).

Another good wheeling prog (freeware) is [URL=http://members.aol.com/jadelottery/page1.htm]JADE Lottery SG[/URL], could give that a try also.

Quoting JADE's author here, note that CM=CoverMaster:

JADE LSG works a little differently than CM. CM is a very good wheel generator; great for coverage and optimization. However, JADE LSG works on a different generation process that deals with probabilty distribution of draw occurrence and symmertic draw occurrence. Also, I tried to make JADE LSG versatile enough to allow a person using JADE LSG to fine tune the lines in a wheel. With CM you are fairly limited to what is produced, however, this should not take away from CM's abilities. Another thing to consider about JADE LSG is that when someone creates a wheel on their computer, the system has a high probability of being unique for the same set of parameters. Try generating a wheel with the same parameters and you'll find that the number combinations are not the same; except for full wheel generation. This means that someone else generating a wheel with the same parameters is most likely not going to have the same system as you. If for example, someone is using the same lottery analysis program and comes up with the same numbers you decide to use, your system's wheel will be different, thus enabling you to be the one with the unique combiantion for the jackpot win; should that be the case.

One thing I'll add is that if someone is concerned about the 'uniqueness' of wheels made with CM, as Jade mentions, one could use CM's Randomize feature without altering the cover. Also, since CM doesn't filter, I sometimes randomize the wheels I make to see if I can improve some lines (ie: get rid of too many odds or evens on one line) ... it doesn't always work, and can be time consuming depending on the size of the wheel.

I haven't used JADE LSG for some time (so don't ask me about it ), all I remember is that it was good, but since I was more familiar with CM at that time I chose to stick with it.

Cheers

The CM54.ZIP that I got is a prerelease version of Covermaster 0.5.4. Is that the one that you are using, Karnac?

If there are literally no difference in term of performance I guess there is no need to be hunting a newer version.

Anyway, I am testing the Covermaster to see how it compares to GH Wheel Six Plus. I did read somewhere in the forum that when you wheel, you have no chance to directly hit the Jackpot. Is that true, Karnac/Brad?

I mean, what is the use of wheeling when the chance of getting hit the Jackpot is none except collecting small prizes all the way?

Hiya Brad...

For your info... I have already used Jade and seems like the "Symmetrical Concept" although did not fully understand it. But then again, I read somewhere in the forum that says Jade is an unbalance system. Here is the link :-

[url]http://www.lotto649.ws/showthread.php?s=&threadid=779&highlight=jade[/url]

Please do check it out since I am confused, which is true. I stopped using Jade immediately after reading the post.

I do realise that Covermaster generate the wheel differently everytime... but still with what I have tested Covermaster is a bit better than GH Wheel Six Plus. This statement stays until I find something less better produced by Covermaster and something better are hit by GH Wheel Six Plus.

I am going to play 6/42 this Wednesday. The payout has been reduced to a RM300,000. That is not more than USD100,000. Maybe I can see better future from tomorrow...

Well Adfy, you can wheel till your hubcaps fall off but if you don't pick the right numbers to populate your wheels with you ain't gettin nothin'

I've read a good analogy lately that wheeling is like gearing, a reduction ... we know how to build the transmission but we're still trying to perfect the prediction engine. I'm sure the gear-heads among us will have no problems relating to that, self included

Then there are some who will argue that wheels are useless

I vaguely remember having that discussion with ComboManiac but you'd have to ask him for details. I think that he had some concerns about the Jade's stated cover being incorrect but when I compared its reports with CM's all was ok. Like I said, it's been a long while since I used it.

Adfy,

I'm using the version from the site I posted earlier.....remember, patience.

Adfy, CoverMaster version 0.55.2.0 works for me.

Re-download it and try again.

You need the password to unzip the file. If you haven't got it, email the author and ask for it.

Okay Karnac.... right now I am using the same version too. If it is good enough for a expert like you, then it is good enough for me. Sorry for all the fuss... just wanted to get the best to hit the best... Jackpot that is.

Anyway... I think I am onto some thoery now for 6/42 or 6/49 or maybe can be applied to all lotto games worldwide. I don't know yet the confirmation since I haven't had the times to test my theory of selecting numbers.... but from what I did I think I might be able to produce a group of numbers with minimum of 9 so far with commonly a few 4, a more 5, a lot of 6 and some7 within them!! The problem is the total of the numbers are not fixed. I am going to test this theory myself at first.... maybe it really works. So now if I really got the upper hand I might see some $$ this Wednesday!!

Wish me luck!!

Its okay Dylan. Thanks anyway for the info. I will use the older versions... since there is not a much difference.

I see... thanks Brad for the confirmation! I was worried that I used Jade and it is not a good wheel software. Then I would be using a bad tool that are not helping me hit the Jackpot.

I will try to test Jade again some times.

Okay.... so my whole theory of selecting numbers did not work a miracle this time. In fact, it broke the theory overall.

But, I am certain for one thing... I seems to always got a 5/6/7 out of around 30 numbers almost everytime... with 6/7 being the more common. This is accomplished with my first Chaotic Parameter. Heh... seems that I am talking to myself.

I got a 3/7 from a 9 wheeled numbers. Originally the numbers are 16 in total, but I tried deducting it into smaller amount since playing big is not an option. Still, I checked and with the 16 numbers I only got 4/7. The must be a way to deduct 20 numbers from the 30s without compromising the 5/6/7. Hmmm..... I will try again...

After doing a backtest using the same concept for the draw before yesterday, on a 649 with a 21 numbers I still got a full 7 jackpot numbers within. But on yesterday... I failed to. Maybe this theory do not work all the time. Maybe I should just use it all the times and let it catch up with the trend.

I talk like a pro... but must be I am just plain stupid!! This is so hard!!

adfy,

any luck...with GH

Well... currently no. I guess I must still be a newbie with GH. There's quite a few numbers of ways to interpret GH's statistics but currently I am trying to get the best prediction group of numbers. The group must contain the next winning numbers whilst reducing every step using all the available statistical data in GH. I'm also in the process of comparing GH's prediction number group with other software like Winhunter which produces prediction numbers too. The only thing is right now there are too many. It takes time. A lot of it...

But then again... I guess there are no other choice. I you want to be involved... be involved totally. Do not put half of your leg into a hole if you don't really have the guts to jump in.

So cbh33, you have not tell me yet on how do you play the game. What kind of method did you use? Any special software? Come on... share with me...

adfy,

well i am using Lottery Director to run the data plus my own pen and paper method to reduce to 12 numbers selection and use one of the wheels in LD. so far has been getting 4 numbers only. but LD did have the 6 numbers from say 25 to 30 selections.

too difficult to discuss here, prefer to call u. maybe LT would allow phone number here....0167161838...maybe u sms me first.

cheers

cbh33, I don't think that phone numbers a re also permitted here. Another thing is, I think it is more comfortable for me to just discuss in this forum. Unless you have something that needs privacy to talk about?

If you want to join me in discussing the Malaysian 6/49+B Jackpot Game... you can join me in the International & State Lotteries forum section. We can team-up and have discussions on number predictions... compare our numbers etc etc....